MSNBC’s Joy Reid claims to have no problems with hearing Republican points of view, but when it came to discussing abortion on Wednesday’s edition of The ReidOut, she instead welcomed two Democrats, strategist Juanita Tolliver and former Sen. Doug Jones, to wonder why white women vote for Republicans because pro-lifers are a bunch of white supremacists who view them as vehicles to avoid “race suicide.”
A confused Reid declared “the sort of trick that has been difficult to get her out how to untie this knot, Juanita, which is that, you know, white women on a majority, do vote Republican even in states where they’re voting away their reproductive rights. I think about Georgia where they voted for Brian Kemp and his six-week abortion ban and so it's like, what will unlock that fealty that white women have to it.”
When Reid wants to learn about pro-lifers, she turns to the lefties at Slate, “I read this thing in Slate that talked about the origins, the white nationalist origins of the anti-abortion movement. It says the following in Slate, ‘In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, the movement against abortion mainly included white supremacist who pointed to declining white birthrates believed that legalized abortion would mean race suicide for white Protestants.’”
Not only is the pro-life movement larger than white Protestants, it is telling that Reid’s desire to project the 19th century on to 2024 only extends to pro-lifers and not her white male, former Democratic senator from Alabama guest.
Finally getting to a question, Reid asked Tolliver, “You still look at it and you don't think they want you and me to have more babies. I don't think they want Latinos to have more babies. How do they get the message to white women that they are the target and should vote accordingly?”
Tolliver’s solution was to break the scale on the freak out meter, “And we saw white women have a wakeup call when IVF was on the table and that is something that I think when we understand how this is going to impact IVF. Even the list that you had put up from the Heritage Foundation report for 2025, it included same-sex relationships as well.”
In the 920-page document that is Heritage’s Project 2025, the term to “same-sex marriage” appears only twice. Once is to note that same-sex marriages, on average, last less than half that of heterosexual marriages, which is noteworthy for adoption placements and the second is that people should be protected against having to do things such as bake a cake for a same-sex wedding if they object.
However, Tolliver rolled right along, lamenting that Heritage does not care for the left’s abortion euphemisms, “This is not isolated and it won't focus exclusively on abortion or reproductive rights, it is expansive and the other thing that came out of that Heritage report that is a sign of them going too far, as Doug Jones mentioned, is they literally want to delete the language from the books. I'm talking about deleting abortion from federal regulation. Deleting the phrase ‘reproductive rights.’ Deleting DEI, all of it.”
Eventually, Reid returned to implore viewers to “Watch The Handmaid’s Tale, as much of it as you can stand. That's what they want to do and by the way, you know how it's not about babies? They are trying to kill Head Start, which is for the babies.”
Nothing like a good old-fashioned non-sequitur to end the show.
Here is a transcript for the March 27 show:
MSNBC The ReidOut
3/27/2024
7:58 PM ET
JOY REID: The thing is, the sort of trick that has been difficult to get her out how to untie this knot, Juanita, which is that, you know, white women on a majority, do vote Republican even in states where they’re voting away their reproductive rights. I think about Georgia where they voted for Brian Kemp--
JUANITA TOLLIVER: Right.
REID: -- and his six-week abortion ban and so it's like, what will unlock that fealty that white women have to it.
I read this thing in Slate that talked about the origins, the white nationalist origins of the anti-abortion movement. It says the following in Slate, “In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, the movement against abortion mainly included white supremacist who pointed to declining white birthrates believed that legalized abortion would mean race suicide for white Protestants.”
You still look at it and you don't think they want you and me to have more babies. I don't think they want Latinos to have more babies. How do they get the message to white women that they are the target and should vote accordingly?
TOLLIVER: Our message definitely has to come from Republicans because, remember, this attack on abortion is not isolated to abortion. It's reproductive rights generally.
REID: Correct.
TOLLIVER: And we saw white women have a wakeup call when IVF was on the table and that is something that I think when we understand how this is going to impact IVF. Even the list that you had put up from the Heritage Foundation report for 2025, it included same-sex relationships as well.
REID: Correct.
TOLLIVER: This is not isolated and it won't focus exclusively on abortion or reproductive rights, it is expansive and the other thing that came out of that Heritage report that is a sign of them going too far, as Doug Jones mentioned, is they literally want to delete the language from the books.
REID: Yes.
TOLLIVER: I'm talking about deleting abortion from federal regulation. Deleting the phrase "reproductive rights."
REID: Correct.
TOLLIVER: Deleting DEI, all of it.
REID: Yes.
TOLLIVER: And I think when people frame it as this is not isolated to abortion. They're coming for IVF, they’re coming for contraception, they’re coming for anything privacy related—
REID: Yeah.
TOLLIVER-- with a roadmap given by Supreme Court justices Alito and Thomas, then that's what's going to resonate.
REID: Watch The Handmaid’s Tale, as much of it as you can stand. That's what they want to do and by the way, you know how it's not about babies? They are trying to kill Head Start, which is for the babies.
