"I'm Julie Chen. Major fallout in Washington in the wake of the Capitol Hill corruption scandal. President Bush and senior Republican lawmakers plan to dump thousands of dollars in campaign donations from disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff; we'll have that story."
Later in the 7:00 half hour, co-host Harry Smith apparently had the story Chen was referring to when he interviewed Amy Walter from "The Cook Political Report." Smith introduced his segment calling the investigation "part of one of the biggest Congressional corruption investigations in decades." As if the hype wasn’t enough, the graphic "Capitol Hill Corruption Scandal" appeared throughout the interview just in case viewers forgot what they were talking about.
In introducing Ms. Walter, Harry Smith neglects to inform the viewers that she has a history of working for leftist causes and candidates, including Marjorie Margolies Mezvinsky who cast the deciding vote for the Clinton Budget package of 1993 which authorized the Clinton tax hikes.
Smith wanted to know how bad this is for Republicans, yet he ignores the fact that Democrats received money from Jack Abramoff as well.
"Public opinion polls show that a lot of people around the country have a lot, a significant level of distrust as terms of Congress, is this going to end up a Republican problem because so many of the people that Abrahom, Abramoff was lined up with are former Republican Congressional staffers?"
To Ms. Walter’s credit, she at first tried to be objective in her answer, but she couldn’t resist bringing up Tom DeLay, and conjecturing that if he is involved in the case it will be much more partisan:
"Right, that's a very, that's a very very good question, and you know right now I think that for most Americans, they have absolutely no idea who Jack Abramoff is, umm he certainly has not reached the level of uh, you know notoriety. The question becomes who and which number of members get implicated in this, and who they are becomes very important too. Certainly, one of the biggest names that's talked about is Tom DeLay, the former majority leader, if he becomes heavily involved in this case, then I think you're right, it does make it much more of a partisan issue than a bipartisan one."
If Ms. Walters is going to imply that corruption is a Republican problem, how does she explain former Congressman Edward Mezvinsky (D-IA), the husband of her former employer, Marjorie Margolies Mezvinsky?
Finally, with time running out in the segment, Harry Smith finally got to the point that Julie Chen made at the top of the broadcast, the question of the major fallout in Washington, the issue of returning campaign donations.
Harry Smith: "Explain this very quickly, because all of a sudden everybody from President Bush to Denny Hastert started saying we're going to start making significant charitable contributions yesterday, what was that all about?"
Ms. Walter gives a typical response, that they are trying to get out ahead of the scandal so they are not defined by it, but she says nothing that lives up to the hype of "...major fallout in Washington in the wake of the Capitol Hill corruption scandal." A full transcript of the interview follows.
Harry Smith: "It's a good bet there are a lot of nervous lawmakers on Capitol Hill these days, that's because high powered lobbyist Jack Abramoff, who admitted to bringing public official, bribing public officials, has agreed to name names as part of a Federal plea deal. It's all part of one of the biggest Congressional corruption investigations in decades. Amy Walter is an analyst with "The Cook Political Report," She joins us this morning, good morning Amy."
Amy Walter: "Good morning Harry."
Harry Smith: "How big a deal is this?"
Amy Walter: "Well, that's a very good question. We don't the answers quite yet because as you noted, Abramoff is scheduled to start talking to prosecutors, we just don't know exactly what he's going to say. We've seen a wide range of numbers in terms of the number of lawmakers who may be implicated, anywhere from half a dozen another report said something close to 60. Look, there are a lot of former aides etc. who could be caught up in this. The bigger question is not just who is implicated and what the legal ramifications for them are, but there's a big perception problem here too. Remember, we're in the middle of an election, well we're coming up into an election year, and the perception problem here about a Congress that looks like it is sort of out of touch or arrogant, becomes a big big problem."
Harry Smith: "Public opinion polls show that a lot of people around the country have a lot, a significant level of distrust as terms of Congress, is this going to end up a Republican problem because so many of the people that Abrahom, Abramoff was lined up with are former Republican Congressional staffers?"
Amy Walter: "Right, that's a very, that's a very very good question, and you know right now I think that for most Americans, they have absolutely no idea who Jack Abramoff is, umm he certainly has not reached the level of uh, you know notoriety. The question becomes who and which number of members get implicated in this, and who they are becomes very important too. Certainly, one of the biggest names that's talked about is Tom Delay, the former majority leader, if he becomes heavily involved in this case, then I think you're right, it does make it much more of a partisan issue than a bipartisan one. Today we look at the polls..."
Harry Smith: "Because one of his top staffers, it turns out, was directly implicated in this scheme to bilk money out of people who wanted to influence the government."
Amy Walter: "Right, in the plea agreement absolutely, and so the question right now as I said for most Americans, not only do they not know who Jack Abramoff is, but when you ask the question you know, who do you think is more corrupt/less corrupt, who do you think is better at handling these issues, neither side gets very high marks right now Harry. So the question is right now, who's going to do the defining, and that we still have to wait and see."
Harry Smith: "Explain this very quickly, because all of a sudden everybody from President Bush to Denny Hastert started saying we're going to start making significant charitable contributions yesterday, what was that all about?"
Amy Walter: "This is called get out in front of a problem instead of letting it define you. Right, it's a classic political uh deal, you've got to make sure that instead of being on, as Mark Stroud has said to me, instead of being on the train tracks, you get on the train, and so what we're going to see here is a whole lot of talk of not just about returning contributions, but we're already seeing members of Congress come out today, there's a story in the Post, saying hey let's go out and start talking about legislation, passing legislation, reform legislation tackling just this very issue so we can define it rather than having the other party come and define us in November of '06."
Harry Smith: "House cleaning legislation as it were, Amy Walter as always a pleasure to see you, thank you for your insight."
