The liberal ladies of ABC’s The View loved abortion so much that they actively decried and denounced President Trump’s plan to increase America’s birth rate, on Wednesday. Between cries of global overpopulation and cries of racism, the shrieking liberals tried to make every argument under the sun against more babies being born.
As The View’s lead crone, Whoopi Goldberg opened the show with a mocking tone as she introduced the topic (Click “expand”):
So, as birth rates continue to decline in America, the White House is looking into offering $5,000 cash bonuses, expanded access to IVF along with other incentives to women to have more babies. I am incredibly insulted by this because clearly they don't know how women's bodies work, and they don't know what it costs to raise a child or just have a child.
(…)
So I'm supposed to say to you all – and are you ready for this? What do you think of this proposal? Does it address the reasons why perhaps people aren't having children these days? But aren't you excited about it?!
Goldberg, a detached multimillionaire, couldn’t understand how much $5,000 could help some people. “$5,000? I don't know what $5,000 is supposed to do!” she shouted.
The show’s usually feeble conservative, Alyssa Farah Griffin actually pushed back on Goldberg at one point and noted that countries like France and Italy also gave mothers a one-time payment for giving birth. “It ain't $5,000, though!” Goldberg snapped at her.
Goldberg was correct, those countries did not give out a one-time payment of $5,000. France gives the parents a one-time grant of €1,066.30 or $1,207.88 or births and €2,132.58 ($2,414.92) for adoptions. There were reports of Italy offering similar funds. The Associated Press also reported that teachers in liberal Maryland were trying to get $1,000 baby bonuses passed.
Pretend independent Sara Haines, who once said pro-lifers should die of cancer, argued against increasing America’s birth rate because, “I feel that the Earth is overpopulated.”
“Then why do they want us to have more babies?” huffed elderly Joy Behar, seemingly confusing Haines stating her opinion with that of conservatives. “They want us to have more babies because it affects not only the workforce but paying into entitlement programs,” Haines explained.
Of course, staunchly racist Sunny Hostin wanted to “reframe the issue a little bit” and hint that increasing America’s birth rate was all some subtle racist plot:
HOSTIN: And so, when I looked into that, they're saying that the U.S. birth rate is declining, however, in 2024 there was a one percent increase in U.S. births, but that increase was with Hispanic mothers and Asian mothers. Aha! So, they don't seem to be concerned about that increase. They seem to be more concerned about a decrease in other populations.
BEHAR: Say it!
HOSTIN: No, I think I've said enough.
[Laughter]
BEHAR: White children! I’ll say it!
Alyssa Farah Griffin pushed back on Hostin’s suggestions of racism by simply asking for Hostin’s sources and any quotes to back up her assertions. This appeared to short circuit Hostin, who started stuttering as she frantically looked at her talking points cards. She couldn’t cite any legitimate sources:
FARAH GRIFFIN: What’s that based on though?
HOSTIN: Well, it’s – it’s – it’s – it’s – it’s just – it’s just – it’s just based – it’s just based on – on a study.
HAINES: They want more people to pay in.
HOSTIN: The other thing I will say --
FARAH GRIFFIN: But have they said that anywhere? I feel like we have to be fair.
HOSTIN: Yeah, it’s just – it’s just – it’s just a – it’s just a – it’s just a study.
BEHAR: Fair to who?
FARAH GRIFFIN: Have they said this is just to target only white families?
HOSTIN: Oh, I didn't say that. I just gave the stats. I just gave the stats.
Hilariously, as Hostin was trying to argue that she wasn’t suggesting racism was the motivation, Behar started obviously blowing up Hostin’s spot. “You have to read between the lines,” she argued to Farah Griffin. “They aren’t going to say it.”
Hostin went on to argue that people should be skeptical of ideas about increasing America’s birth rate simply because it was something conservatives cared about:
And so also, when I think about who's advocating. Project 2025, remember that? Which was tied to the Heritage Foundation, the think tank that led Project 2025, they open up the Project 2025 before anything else talking about family issues. The first chapter promises to restore the family as the centerpiece of American life. And the Heritage Foundation in particular has been researching this issue for over two years and is preparing to release a report in the coming weeks on how it believes the administration should counter declining birth rates.
What Hostin was demonstrating was the fact that The View really only accepted one view, as NewsBusters recently exposed with a study of the guests they invited on the show.
The transcript is below. Click "expand" to read:
ABC’s The View
April 23, 2025
11:02:48 a.m. EasternWHOOPI GOLDBERG [in a mocking tone]: So, as birth rates continue to decline in America, the White House is looking into offering $5,000 cash bonuses, expanded access to IVF along with other incentives to women to have more babies.
[Laughter]
BEHAR: Why?!
GOLDBERG [in a mocking tone]: And – Okay.
[Laughter]
I am incredibly insulted by this because clearly they don't know how women's bodies work, and they don't know what it costs to raise a child or just have a child.
[Applause]
$5,000? I don't know what $5,000 is supposed to do! And it's not even $5,000 because you have to cut it in half because you have to pay taxes on it! So, they're offering you $2500 [claps mockingly] to have a baby! Now, don't forget about all the stuff they've cut!
BEHAR: We have of a list that.
GOLDBERG [in a mocking tone]: Yes, you have a list! So I'm supposed to say to you all – and are you ready for this? What do you think of this proposal? Does it address the reasons why perhaps people aren't having children these days? But aren't you excited about it?!
(…)
11:05:08 a.m. eastern
SARA HAINES: But I'm one of those people that I feel that the Earth is overpopulated, so when it comes to --
BEHAR: Then why do they want us to have more babies?
SUNNY HOSTIN: Hmmm!
HAINES: They want us to have more babies because it affects not only the workforce but paying into entitlement programs.
ALYSSA FARAH GRIFFIN: The social safety net.
HAINES: But what I would say this is a short -- they're missing the greater point. A.I. is going to be a problem for our entitlement problems way before the birth rate –
HOSTIN: What entitlement programs?
FARAH GRIFFIN: The social safety net.
HAINES: Social Security. If you have less people working in the workforce you have less people paying into a system that eventually has to pay out -- it's going to bankrupt the social services. The problem here is A.I. is going to defeat that way before our birth rates are. So, they're missing something greater. They have to rework our social system.
BEHAR: Well, they have to tax billionaires for one thing and corporations, maybe they would have more money to spend.
HAINES: Yeah.
[Applause]
FARAH GRIFFIN: Donald Trump has actually floated taxing billionaires.
BEHAR: He floated?
FARAH GRIFFIN: He suggested.
BEHAR: He floats a lot of things.
HOSTIN: [In audible] people who make more than a million dollars a year as well; he wants to tax.
FARAH GRIFFIN: I actually generally support this policy. That may surprise you guys.
The number one concern I hear from young people they want to have kids but don't think they could afford it. And we could argue whether it's enough money or not, the 5,000, but both Italy and France do this. You get a one-time payment when you have a child and what it could do toward --
GOLDBERG: It ain't $5,000, though!
FARAH GRIFFIN: Well, it could go to the out-of-pocket costs for delivering a child which range between 1,500 and 3,000. If you put it in a 529 savings account when that child is born, by the time they're 18 you'll have twice that, you’ll have about $10,000 based on current market conditions. We also have policies like this in place. We have the child tax credit which gives you a tax credit back for the number of children you have and the earned income tax credit.
Because of this idea that our social safety net, so Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid rely on the younger population keeping up with the older population so they can pay into it. But here's my caveat, this would apply to gay couples, not just to women who have children, and to adoptive parents, not just people who have children naturally.
And finally, they said that they're going to look into the ways to lower the cost of IVF. I'm going to need to see it to believe it, but it is too expensive. So many women deal with infertility and they do need to find a way to lower the cost.
HOSTIN: I want to reframe the issue a little bit, because when I look at something like this, these proposals, I want to know why and I want to know who’s making them. And so, when I looked into that, they're saying that the U.S. birth rate is declining, however, in 2024 there was a one percent increase in U.S. births, but that increase was with Hispanic mothers and Asian mothers. Aha! So, they don't seem to be concerned about that increase. They seem to be more concerned about a decrease in other populations.
BEHAR: Say it!
HOSTIN: No, I think I've said enough.
[Laughter]
FARAH GRIFFIN: What’s that based on though?
BEHAR: White children! I’ll say it!
HOSTIN: Well, it’s – it’s – it’s – it’s – it’s just – it’s just – it’s just based – it’s just based on – on a study.
HAINES: They want more people to pay in.
HOSTIN: The other thing I will say --
FARAH GRIFFIN: But have they said that anywhere? I feel like we have to be fair.
HOSTIN: Yeah, it’s just – it’s just – it’s just a – it’s just a – it’s just a study.
BEHAR: Fair to who?
FARAH GRIFFIN: Have they said this is just to target only white families?
HOSTIN: Oh, I didn't say that. I just gave the stats.
BEHAR: You have to read between the lines.
HOSTIN: I just gave the stats.
BEHAR: They aren’t going to say it.
HAINES: Yeah, but it’s about economics. They’re wanting people to pay in.
HOSTIN: I'm just giving facts.
And so also, when I think about who's advocating. Project 2025, remember that? Which was tied to the Heritage Foundation, the think tank that led Project 2025, they open up the Project 2025 before anything else talking about family issues. The first chapter promises to restore the family as the centerpiece of American life. And the Heritage Foundation in particular has been researching this issue for over two years and is preparing to release a report in the coming weeks on how it believes the administration should counter declining birth rates.
So, I just leave that with all of you because I think –
HAINES: There are global declining birth rates though.
HOSTIN: But I think when we're talking about the United States, we need to think about the who’s proposing it and why.
HAINES: They want future consumers.
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